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Area/Game:Wooden Ships & Iron Men
1Topic:Bugs and Improvements
Subject:Re: [WS&IM][BUG] Game # 18139 Ship fires on a surrendered ship
Posted by: pbass111 - 18years 306days ago.
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sfatulateam wrote:
pbass111 wrote:

Johnny I guess you are joking aren't you? Surrended ships should not be fired on! It's a bug.


Actually, my recollection is Pbass asked the game developer, who said it was correct.

Points in the original game are not actually clear. What the crew hits section says is "the ship cannot be moved or used in combat", which to me more means firing as there is no one to shoot the guns. It also says "Excess crew hits are treated as misses", almost implying the ship CAN take more damage. I honestly don't think you score ANYTHING, unless I am missing something. You could board it and therefore take the points, but, there is no boarding in the simplified game. But capturing it DOES score double points in the original rules. See XI.B.3. So, ships certainly do score double, and, the question is how to treat these ships in a game where there is no boarding.

My recollection may refer to another rule, as well. I'll go back and check my email traffic from last year.

It may not necessarily be a bug, Derek. There may be a reason (such as using grape in advanced games) to clear some crew before boarding. Just because the ship surrenders, would the crew do likewise? Ponder on that for a bit.

I'll check on things tomorrow, and if necessary see what Craig has to say. I sent him a missive about 2 weeks ago, but haven't heard back from him yet. His email address may have changed.

My 2 cents which is what it is worth is don't score ANYTHING for killing the crew, only score if targeted and sunk or in the basic game, boarded. After all, presumably, you can add minimal crew after the battle is done and sail the ship home.
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