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Area/Game:Wooden Ships & Iron Men
Topic:Program code error
Subject:Re: 2010 has ended...let's end bugs too!
Posted by: dcr66 - 15years 270days ago.
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BlueDragon wrote:
derekticus wrote:


I can send you the League scoring system e-mail exchanges with Nick. It seemed to me that he had agreed to our proposed system, but then it was never integrated into the software.
There were other bugs and some of them have been addressed, so I am not entirely sure on where we stand.
I'll try and take some time tomorrow and go through my e-mails and forward them to you directly.

Nick has already sent me those emails and I have coded the proposed new league scoring system: hopefully we'll be able to upload and test it online soon


dcr66 wrote:

One of the biggest complain among us playtesters is the way WSIM is handled in the league system mainly. These are the problems (to me at least):

  • 2 players league game: Player A surrenders. Player B should be considered the winner of the game and gain the 3 league points (or is it 4?) regardless of how many points have been scored or how many ships are left floating on either side.

  • Many players league game: If a player surrenders. His side should not be penalized for his cowardly behavior should they choose to fight on. The surrendered player(s)' ships should go on automove as long as there is somebody else alive on that side.

  • The score at the end should determines the winner of the game. Not the number of ships left.


  • The proposed new system fixes issues 1 and 3 ("surrender win" and "number of ships"), however it does not address issue 2: that is, no help is given to a coalition whose member surrenders.
    Actually the new system does almost the opposite as it ensures that surrendering is faced with stiff penalties (all ships of surrendering player are considered as captured by the other coalition as far as scoring goes).

    Can you elaborate further on why surrendered ships should automove (or other help be given to the coalition of a surrendered player)?



    Playtesting:
    Let us former testers know when we want to test it. We can probably find a group of faster players to do a password league in the name of quality assurance. We will try to create the situation to test your new implementations and bug fixes.

    Surrender in multiplayer league games:
    There are generally 3 types of players that will surrender in league games when you have more than 1 player each side:

  • Inexperienced players that decide to quit when things are not going well. They don't usually talk to others during the game. The other WSIM regular usually use the in game chat box to signal each other for tactics.
  • (Rarely) Experienced players who decide to quit the site for personal reason. Instead of making everybody else to wait for the automoving, they just surrender in all the games.
  • Players who join the league by accident. Some of the new players decide to join EVERYTHING in the league index blindly. Since there is no way to un-join a league. The league will start and they may choose to surrender ASAP to get out of it.




    --- Message edited by dcr66

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