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Area/Game:Blue Max
Topic:Suggestions, improvement, critics
Subject:Re: Fixing German Fuel Tanks
Posted by: saltylog - 16years 267days ago.
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Possible additional alternative in my previous post.





BlackSheep wrote:
HeadMMoid wrote:
BlackSheep wrote:

Nice point Steve, but from the discussion with Phil Hall we learned that he put the fuel rule in the game to determine its length. This means the fuel rule is part of the heart of Blue Max.
From the repeated discussions with HeadMoid we know that he just wants to delete it.
And that can't be.

Let us consider the first two sentences. In effect they say; "Phil Hall wrote it, so it cannot change." That would seem to put you at a severe disagreement with this site (which you so vocally support) seeing as how it has made a number of notable deletions and modifications to the core rules of Phil Hall's beloved and supposedly inviolate Blue Max rules.

I don't say it can't be changed what has been thought by Phil, I say that to change it you must offer an alternative system, and you don't do it.
When you design a game you have to take into consideration a lot of things. One thing that Phil had to consider was to find a system to control the length of the game, so as to be sure that it remained under the two hours. The one that Phil identified was fuel system that allowed to draw a further difference between the planes. This makes it part of the heart of the game, som when you say:
"In that regard, I would suggest, as I have done in the past, that overall fuel capacity is a poor and arbitrary choice for governing the length of a game which represents aerial combat in the First World War."
You give your opinion but you don't give any solution to replace this key part of Blue Max rules. and, with this is dealt the second part of your reply. Full stop.

And now let's go on to see the real value of the fuel a plane has.

I'm a fighter pilot in World War I, I sight the enemy as he made. We are in even position on each other. I know to have much more fuel. What I do? I rush in since HeadMMoid says that fuel has no tactical value or I try to use my fuel to gain a better tactical position?

I'm waiting your solution to this little tactical puzzle. In case I can tell you what would have replied J.E. “Johnnie” Johnson (Full Circle: the Story of Air Fighting ), Gregory "Pappy" Boyington (Baa Baa Black Sheep), Robert McClurg (On Boyington’s Wing), Adolf Galland (First and the Last), Pierre Henri Clostermann (The Big Show), and so on, just to let you understand that even the others can read books pertaining to this matter.

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