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Area/Game:Wooden Ships & Iron Men
Topic:Program code error
Subject:Re: Surrender Bug: Ethic of Opportunity Surrendering
Posted by: Odeiiii - 16years 260days ago.
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dcr66 wrote:
Odeiiii wrote:


Derek, Tlamb67 and Dcr66, thank you very much for sharing your opinion. I agree you and never will use the surrendering option (at least until the bug is fixed).

Anyway, I have another question about common ethics in YPI WS&IM: in wargames, even in pure tactical single scenaries, I like acting as if there were to be a tomorrow; so, if the odds are against me and my sacrifice doesn't retrieve any profit, I simply try to flee like a rat to deny my opponent a victory (or a greater one) and avoid the loss of units that hypothetically could fight another day. However, if I did so in a YPI WS&IM game (sailing away out of enemy cannon range during 5 turns) before losing any ship, would it be regarded as akin to the "opportunity surrendering" because it equally denies the victory to the side that seeks combat? I personally don't think so, as this possibility would force the advantaged side to close distances in order to avoid his opponent fleeing (as in real world); doing so he would surely have to risk to be raked, giving so his opponent some tactical advantage to compensate his inferiority and improving his possiblities to eventually win. As Sun Tzu said, if you want your enemy to accept the battle, you must give him some kind of advantage; otherwise, he simply will avoid until it better circumstances present themselves.

As before, any opinion will be welcome.

Odei


In regular public games it is bad etiquette to not fight and just sail around the map. You can fight and run if you can get away with it. As for league games, it is reasonable to play the game cautiously. Hence you station keeping hoping for the other player to charge you and you get few rakes out of it.


Ok. And what if, knowing he would be raked, he decided not to charge and the five-turn limit passed? In such case both players would share the responsability for the double defeat, wouldn't they?

Odei

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