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Country:CX
Personal Data:Male, born: June 17 1960
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Area/Game:Wooden Ships & Iron Men
Topic:Program code error
Subject:Re: Surrender Bug: Ethic of Opportunity Surrendering
Posted by: derekticus - 16years 267days ago.
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Odeiiii wrote:
Good day, Admirals.

I'm a new member in You Play It, signed in just two weeks ago. I like specially naval wargames, so immediately I subscribed to some WS&IM games, three of them against the same player. I lost the first two of these, but it looked like I was going to win the third one as I managed to dismast all the enemy ships. However, just when I was going to maneouvre to rake and finish them off, my opponent surrendered. It didn't amaze me, as his possibilities of eventually winning were rather scarce. However, later I realized the victory count in my profile didn't increase as it should according to the rules. I looked at the forum and learned that such "surrender bug" is fairly known, and that unfortunately the game programmers are too busy to fix it now. In that moment I thought maybe my opponent too, as me, was a new player and didn't know about the bug, but a quick look at his profile showed me he was a veteran with several hundreds of games at his back (about half of them victorious). Such behaviour shocked (and still shocks) me, as it just denied me the victory without giving him anything (for him the game would be credited as a defeat anyway), and I would like to know how it is ethically regarded in the You Play It Community: is it a 'legal' option, or on the contrary is it thought as non-fairplay, or even as plain cheating?

I will appreciate any opinion.


Yes, this is a both an ethical problem and a known bug that could be easily fixed, it would seem. To fix the bug, you simply assign all the points of the ships that are surrendering to their opponent(s).
As far as playing "ethically" that is up to each player; however, surrendering before your opponent scores even a single point is cheap - if you don't want to play anymore you can just ignore the game and let it auto move, OR, you may purposefully move your ships so they get destroyed quickly and efficiently.

PS - Welcome to WS&IM...
Derek

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