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Subject:Re: Player retiring without honor for no reason
Posted by: markrendl - 14years 280days ago.
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TXWard wrote:
Der_Kobra wrote:

Actually, Wertzz makes perfect sense but being hellbent on calling people names blinds you to his reasoning.

He plays the game as if he is a pilot. You try to kill and not be killed. It doesn't matter if you win or lose, or lose half your points for leaving off the side. All that matters is that you do as much damage as you can and live to fight another day. He is playing the simulation more so than the game, so calling him names for it is out of line.

What Wertzz does is quite different than what Dude27 did as well as what your teammate did in the game you linked to. They left dishonorably with planes still very well equipped for combat, solely to get the cheap win. I don't avoid games with pilots who play the simulation like Wertzz does, but the pilots that go for cheap wins I steer clear of.


Announcing that you'll run in advance is a pretty poor excuse for sportsmanship. Using this as a guise for acceptable gameplay is akin to saying if it doesn't go my way, I'm picking up my toys and going home.

This is still a game. And in this game, there are penalties for leaving early or anywhere but your side. If you can't abide by that, then the name applies.

As for opponents, I assume the other Pilot knows the rules and will play accordingly. I have no interest in the "Cheap" win either. But running off is just plain weak...

Respectfully,

Der_Kobra

Now you're the one being confusing. The other pilot knows the rules and is abiding by them. There are penalties as you state, and they are accepting them. It appears that you are the one who can't accept that others abide by the actual rules instead of what YOU think the rules should be. This, I'm afraid, you just need to get over.

Personally, I think the biggest problem would get solved by making any dishonorable departure subject to the same penalty. If you leave on your side without honor, your points should be halved just as if you exited one of the other three sides. That would eliminate most of the cheap wins.


In the year or so that I've been playing here, I've seen this topic come round several times. It's clearly a polarizing issue with people firmly in one of at least several camps.

There are those who will fight on, seemingly regardless of the odds, till they can leave with honor and they will try to make it to their home lines, or die trying.

There are those who will fight until damage or the overall tactical situation make continued contact suicidal and they will leave by whatever safest route is open to them.

There are those who play the points and once they've maximized their possible points, or secured a safe margin for a win, will wing it for home.

There are those who simply seem to fight till they either drive the enemy from the sky or are shot down, regardless of their fuel or damage situation.

I've never seen anyone converted from their camp to another by such discussion, so have generally refrained from posting in these threads. Berating those whom are in another camp isn't going to warm them to your own position. It's not completely possible to avoid playing with those in camps you disagree with as they may join games, or leagues, after you.

A more realistic approach is to observe and decide which camp your opponents fall into and tailor your tactics and strategies in flying against them accordingly.

Regards

markrendl

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