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Area/Game:Wooden Ships & Iron Men
Topic:Program code error
Subject:Re: Surrender by Immobility Bug
Posted by: Ogrebait2 - 16years 89days ago.
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Ogrebait2 wrote:



8/27/2009 3:23:01 PM - BlackJoke wrote:
Okay the rule is "only if no friendly ship of the same or larger class as the firing ship is within ten hexes" in 499220 Captian and Col. are of the same CLASS (note not size)and within 10 hexes, so you will not be able to get the Royal to surrender until you clear out the 10 hex trange. Poor Caesar was all by it's lonesome so it gave it up.


Okay, so what you are saying is that this rule doesn't differentiate between different types of SOL's (1st vs 2nd) but it does between SOL's and frigates?

I'll have to check my other games, but I remember at least one case in which one of my ships surrendered when there was a ship of the same size & class within 10 hexes.


Just re-read the rule. Here's what it says:

This is a source of great confusion for many newcomers, and even experienced players, because the event log says it will surrender if raked, but that's only part of the story. All of the above conditions must be met. As an example, if a 1st SOL rakes a ship that lost all of its rigging squares, another friendly 1st SOL must be within ten hexes to avoid the surrender. A 2nd SOL is not the same class as a 1st SOL, so a 2nd SOL or frigate will not qualify. Also, the shot must be a rake aimed at the hull. Since shots can be aimed at the hull only if the range is five hexes or less, the firing ship must be at least that close and order the hull to be the target. A shot aimed at the rigging may produce hull hits, but this does not qualify as a hull rake.

So back to my question, is anyone else seeing this problem and under what conditions?

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