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Area/Game:Wooden Ships & Iron Men
Topic:Rules
Subject:Re: The litterature on WS&IM rules
Posted by: KapteinKnutsen - 3years 156days ago.
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dcr66 wrote:
KapteinKnutsen wrote:
dcr66 wrote:
That https://www.vftt.co.uk have some serious stuff.

I have been collecting ASL stuff over the years including the newer stuff. Probably will play left hand vs right hand when I retire (or whatever) some time. Need some serious table space for that. I have sporadic copies of The General for the ASL contents. Good to have PDFs that go back to ancient time.

I have created a bookmark for the site.



ASL is definitely the game I miss playing the most.

I remember one of the guys I used to play with decided to supplement his CS degree with a few courses at law school. He came back describing it as a cake walk, "it's just like reading ASL rules"


The old school games like ASL, Star Fleet Battles, and the others with the thick tomes of rulebooks are all like law. Exception is nobody is going to jail if you mess up.

The hey days of gaming clubs in the 1980s and early 1990s were full of "rule lawyers" anyway! There were people that can quote the sub section numbers of certain rules and how it is interpreted. No internet back then to consult anyone else, those rule lawyers debates get nasty all the time!!!

ASL have learner kits (by a 3rd party company) in the recent years. I have some of them and got my daughter to do some. They are more playable because there isn't as much reading to get going. The learner scenarios keep things simple. Not much to learn if you stick with just infantry with simple weapons. Those learner kits have the necessary counters but the maps are just cardboard (box cover grades). I have most of the old maps. One day when I have time and can setup a big table I will do the left hand vs right hand. Maybe even with that Stalingrad module. It is the nostalgia more than real opponents, real human players are hard to find these days.


If I remember correctly, the ASL rule discussions were pretty clean, however. It was mostly about finding the rule - once you found it it was usually quite precise (even if it might consist of 90% abbreviations ). Not like those 1st edition WS&IM rules where, when you need to interpret it, it is not really so clear what the damn thing is actually saying..

Enough OT, perhaps, but I have an exuse for continuing it: Do you have a link or reference for the more recent learner kits? I am trying to get my neighbor to play. He is into board games, but the 5kg rule book is putting him off...

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